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lucky13
A few observations from my recent cruise on RCL with my family over February school vacation.
Ship:
The cruise was great for families. Our ship had Ice Skating, Mini-Golf, Basketball, Rock Climbing, a nice Theater, good bars and just about everything to keep us busy at sea. Our room was surprisingly comfortable with a small balcony.
Since this is a gaming site, here goes my observations.
SAVE YOUR MONEY. Rules were essentially horrific.
BJ, Single Deck, 6-5, dealt only two hands. Other table used 8 decks or continuous shuffling machines. I found a $25 hand shuffled 8 deck game. H17, DAS, No Surrender. Not bad, but I bought in for $1,000 and they watched the table like a hawk.
Craps, Single odds, 9-1, 7-1 for H6&8, H4&10, respectively. Field paid 2-1 on 2&12. Last night had double odds.
VP, here it was crazy. JoB paid 6/5.....
Poker, 1/2 NL, 10% rake, also NL. There was one pushed pot with about $150 in it, and the house took $15, and the two players chopped, each losing.
Craps, 0 & 00.
Slots. Didn't see any winners.
Bingo. No cumulative, now a $500 top jackpot for $40 buy in (I let my kids play).
Had to pay for drinks in a casino. Who knew????
Cruise was great, but the casino was pretty bad. When we docked in the Bahamas, a bunch of us headed over to Atlantis which was a great time. Real VP odds. Real BJ (I even saw a $500 minimum table on the floor that was packed). Craps had a $15 minimum. No Poker that I found. A nice treat after being stuck with the boat's casino.
madmike

And if you got a blackjack, a 5-card 21, a 6-7-8 21, or a 7-7-7 21, you got paid instantly at 3:2 (no waiting to see if the dealer got a blackjack, either). You could double after.any. card, not just the third one, double after splits, re-hit split Aces, and they offered late surrender. Dealer does hit on soft 17 on 90% of the tables. The ship I was only last week had a weird blackjack game where all the cards were faceup, but deal won every push, and didn't have to hit on soft 17. Surrender is allowed. It's early surrender and that's it. Yes double allowed on any card. Yes you can double on a split. One day you could be dealing blackjack in the Mediterranean, and next week you’re spinning roulette wheels in the Caribbean. Cruise casino dealers are entrusted with the important job of making sure guests have a good time while playing and that everything sails smoothly under their job.

In the companies defence...
On the ship you'd be able to find a $5 min Bj table, even at night, the dealers would have had better PR than Atlantis staff, and despite the ship rules, Royal are still better than other cruise lines, (thinking Norweigan with almost all BJ games now paying 6:5 on BJ)
For better rules on Craps, sister company Celebrity cruises offer 3/4/5 odds every night, and almost always have a $5 min game.
For better rules on blackjack our sister company Azamara cruises offer late surrender, but the casinos are tiny, 5 tables and 5 dealers - not everyones cup of tea.
As for the drinks, the only major cruise line to try free drinks, changed the policy after 3 weeks in january, as every guest on the ship was hitting the casino bar. the casino margins are not good enough to support that level of hit.
the Texas hold'em, the rake is high (10% to $10 cap on most ships) but the game is soft enough that its beatable with even solid play. Also we don't rake without a flop (unlike Norweigan who rake every hand).
We do pick up drinks for big betting players, think $50+, and even offer a VIP program with cash rebates, free cruises and other perks based on your level of play.
On the cruise line its a casino attatched to a hotel, not the other way around. It's an important distinction.
Wizard
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I wrote a little about the casino on the Norwegian Star in my May 3, 2007 newsletter. The Star did have free drinks, but cocktail service was very slow, requiring paperwork for every single drink. Regarding the caliber of the other players at poker, most were very soft, but there were two or three strong players camped out at the table the entire cruise to fleece them. It is a valid point that it isn't fair to compare a casino on a cruise ship to a land casino. I'm sure it is much more expensive to support a small casino on a ship per player than a large one on land.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
RaleighCraps
I have cruised and played Craps on Celebrity, RC, and Carnival.
It was quite some time ago, but I am pretty sure Celebrity only offered 2x odds at that time. However, as noted, the casino manager was the box on the craps table, and most nights I was the only player. He would buy me a beer or two during the evening, and most every night I was offered a high end cordial if I was there when they closed the tables.
RC was single odds. The place 6/8 is the same on all of the boats, and the same in all casinos, so just stayed mostly on the 6/8, with occasional forays into the 5/9. Paying the 4/10 vig upfront I find to be stomach wrenching, so I just won't play those numbers, unless the dice insist on rolling nothing but 4s and 10s. :-) No free drinks were ever offered on RC.
I had a few others playing craps with me on RC, but most of the time it was myself and my daughter who was learning the game. BTW, not every young lady new to craps is a lucky shooter :-(
Carnival was the same, 2x odds. I had more people join me in the evenings on Carnival, but there were a few hours of solo play. Carnival gave me a beer each night, and on the last day they gave me a tee shirt and hat too.
Regarding the hardways, I think the payout is the same as Vegas. The ships say 9-1, but you get to keep your original bet, whereas Vegas will say 10 for 1. They pay you 10, but take your original bet, thus the net result is exactly the same. The 2x 12 makes the field a high HA, so not much reason to play it.
Overall, I have found if I can play easy, PL bet and 6/8, the game is not that much different than most land based casinos. Truth be told, I was surprised to see the craps table the last time. I was sure it would be gone. There are so few of us who play the game on a cruise, and it takes a minimum of 2 staff to run the table, if they are willing to run with no box........
Every cruise I have managed to get up a significant amount, but have yet to get off the stinking boat still up. I think the next cruise I will play heavy the first night, and then get off at first port and fly back home, thus ensuring I get to keep my winnings. Either that, or mail all my cash and credit cards back home at the first port.
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cardshark
Norwegian used to have decent blackjack games, 3:2, 6 decks, S17, $5 min. They had $5 9/6 JOB, too. At one point, they even had Spanish 21. But its all gone now. Oh well, who's going on a cruise to gamble anyway?
FYI, on the major cruise lines, every single guest over 21 gets automatic casino credit. No credit check or wiring of money ahead of time required. You can request 'markers' at the tables by giving your ship card to the dealer. The amount is added to your onboard account tab which is usually secured at the beginning of the cruise with a credit card or a cash deposit, and settled at the end of your cruise.
cclub79
My first real gambling was on Celebrity Cruises, and then RC. It was the only place to gamble legally for an 18-20 year old. It was the 90s, Caribbean Stud had just become very popular, so those tables were hot. Blackjack was still decent rules (S17, 6:5 hadn't been invented). I think it was the first place I saw Double Exposure as well. I did notice that when I started betting Green Chips only, I got some attention from the bosses, to the point that someone came out of the cage and dealt to me by the second night. Maybe it was because of my apparent closeness with the young British dealer. Thinking back to the first trip, she and I probably broke some rules regarding the relationship between crew and passengers, but I'd rather not get into non-gambling exploits! I have so many great memories and stories from the trips. One that my friend enjoys: There was this very attractive young woman at one end of the BJ table, and a crusty old fool at the other end, and I sat down in the middle. I'd seen her before and was happy she was in the casino. We started playing, and after every poor decision she would make, crusty fool would yell 'WRONG!' Eventually she was flustered enough to leave. I glared at him, as if to say, 'Idiot, she may be wrong but she was AT OUR TABLE and STUNNING!' I waited about two minutes before cashing out and trying to find her, and for the rest of the trip I never saw her again. To this day, my friend and I will say 'WRONG!' where appropriate. BTW, he's still my best friend and he does not gamble one penny ever.
Interestingly, the rules for boarding ships was much more relaxed then. My buddy and I were freshmen in college, 18 years old, and we drove to Florida to board the ship. I didn't have a passport or birth certificate for some reason, and they let me on anyway. Someone said 'Just don't do anything bad because you will not be able to use the services of the American Embassy or Consulate when you are on the trip.' Now, I believe you must be at least 21 to get on a ship without a guardian, and that guardian must be over 25. (With an exception for married couples, maybe?) And they ABSOLUTELY will NOT let you on without a passport. My last cruise, there was a couple that was protesting as they were being led away from the line, unable to board.
Nareed
Could it be that with more gambling options more widely available just about anywhere, cruises don't attract serious gamblers anymore? If so, then naturally they'd skew the rules the better to fleece casual gamblers who don't know any better.
Also cruise lines seem to have gone family-friendly in a big way. Gambling is a family-unfriendly activity. At the very least it would be a low priority.
Wizard
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Could it be that with more gambling options more widely available just about anywhere, cruises don't attract serious gamblers anymore? If so, then naturally they'd skew the rules the better to fleece casual gamblers who don't know any better.


I've been on three one-week cruises, and have never seen anybody betting serious money. The average bet was about $25.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Nareed

I've been on three one-week cruises, and have never seen anybody betting serious money. The average bet was about $25.


:) I play $5 BJ when I can find it.
I seem to recall decades ago there were gambling cruises to nowhere. A cruise to nowhere is one where the ship just sails around, never going too far from it home port, and the passengers enjoy the ship's amenities. They're usually short (two/three days). A gambling cruise would sail just far enough to reach international waters and then open up the casino.
Such cruises would have been attractive to serious gamblers living in coastal areas (say the gulf coast of Texas, Florida, much of the Eastern coast), as a cheaper option to a trip to Vegas or AC.
I heard of them. I don't know if they ever existed.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
RaleighCraps
Nareed,
Myrtle Beach , South Carolina still has those Casino boats. They sail twice a day on weekends I believe. I 'think' they have to sail 3 miles out to effectively be in International waters, and then they can legally have gambling operations. I think the sailings last for 4 hours or so.
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JoelDeze
02-12-2017 'Regal Princess' Cruise Ship Report
I'll go in order of Table Games and followed by Slots.
BLACKJACK
3 types of Blackjack Tables were on the cruise.
Type 1:
$6 min / $500 max
Continuous Shuffler
6:5 payout on BJ
Dealer Hits on Soft 17
No Surrender
No Even Money
Prop Bets were 'Lucky Ladies' $1-$10 max
Lucky Ladies were the same on all tables.
QH + QH = 1000x payout
Any suited pair that adds up to 20 = 19x payout
K or Q + 10 = 4x payout
Any A + 9 combo = 4x payout
Type 2:
$25 min / $1000 max
Continuous Shuffler
6:5 payout on BJ
Dealer Hits on Soft 17
Surrender allowed on opening hand
Even Money accepted
Lucky Ladies prop bets
Type 3:
Fun 21 (similar to Spanish 21)
$6 min / $500 max
6-deck shoe
3:2 payout on BJ
1:1 payout on 21
No Kings in the deck
Double allowed anytime
Surrender allowed on open hand and after doubling
Lucky Ladies prop bets.
Blackjack Summary
The only table I won at was fun 21, and not much at all. I stayed away from the other tables because everything was stacked against the player. I was a bit disappointed that Princess modified their rules to provide an extremely negative player experience. Not a lot of the rules were posted and at times it just felt like they were making up the rules during play.
Dealers pulled winning bets a lot and cards had to be unfolded to prove wins. Most of the dealers were from South Africa on the ship because the name tags showed Country of origin.
Overall return on BJ was (-$700 in the red)
CRAPS TABLE
$5 min table with 2x Odds
No Hops / No Fire Bets / plain vanilla Rules
Micro Fiber table
You are allowed to increase the passline and odds on the passline anytime after the point was set.
Summary
The craps table was by far the best table on the ship and they only had one open from 8-9pm on to 2 or 3 am in the morning.
With the passline increases allowed at anytime, I started with $5 and after the point was set determined increases. I found this very advantageous. 4 or 10 I'd leave the $5. 5 or 9 I'd increase to $10/$20. 6 or 8 I'd increase to $30/$60.
The best night was when a bunch of drunk hot girls showed up and the table had 5 hot rollers in a row. I cleared $1,600 and was very entertained for 3 hours.
Other nights were hit and miss because the same people showed up that weren't rolling well and so I had to figure out when to DP/DC.
Overall on Craps I ended up +$300 for the week.
OTHER TABLES

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3-Card Poker
Roulette
Video Poker table - 12 seats. Didn't play. Sorry.
SLOT MACHINES

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They had a lot of bonus game play slots and 4 video poker machines.
The slots were loose in the daytime and tight at night.
Credits were generally 1/2/3/5/10 with amounts equaling $.30/$.60/$.90/$1.50/$3.00.
Playing on 2 and 3 produced a lot more wins. This was ascertained from just talking with others. Playing max produced empty pockets.
On bonus slots playing faster produced more bonuses.
The bigger winning machines were actually located right in the front of the casino by the entrance.
Summary
My mom won $480 over the trip. My brother won about $170. I lost about $200. My wife came out about even. My Mom and Brother only played slots during night the trip.
Overall Summary
The dealers were friendly and the entire staff was top notch as far as service levels go. There were tournament buy ins for Poker, Blackjack and Slots every night. General buy in was $20 and the top 6 played in a final. Winner received $300.
I liked the craps table the best. Great experience and the only table I consistently won on while playing. I did get lucky on the 3-card poker table on the last day and won $600 on a straight flush. But it took me $400 and 3 hours to get there.
I didn't like the shift in Princess policy to maximize house profit. In 2011 there were no shufflers and the odds were 3:2 and 6:5 on BJ. I felt that you want people leaving with a positive experience and I'd give an overall casino grade of C- for the ship.
Any questions ask away.
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson
LuckyPhow

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Any questions ask away.


Many thanx for the great trip report!
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?
AxelWolf

The slots were loose in the daytime and tight at night.

You dont really believe this do you? I guess its technically possible, especially if they have a central server. For the most part when people claim this type of BS it's total nonsense. I highly doubt the slot techs run around and change the slot settings. They probably have them all set fairly low to begin with and keep them that way.

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Quote: JoelDeze

Playing max produced empty pockets.

That's usually the case since you are betting more on something that's probably holding 15%+.

On bonus slots playing faster produced more bonuses.

of course it did, you are getting more chances to get into bonus rounds because you are playing more spins per hour.
Quote: JoelDeze

The bigger winning machines were actually located right in the front of the casino by the entrance.

Were they higher denominations? If so, they would naturally have more jackpots and appear to be the 'bigger winning machines'.
You hit the quadfecta on slot myths.
Right after reading the part where you were down $700 on various games. I was thinking myself, the happy ending craps winning part will be coming soon. Sure enough, as predicted to myself....
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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Many thanx for the great trip report!
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?

Probably not since they needed time to change the slot payouts. (-;
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
GWAE
Why would you do a put bet with only 2x odds? That is a terrible way to play.
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CrystalMath

Many thanx for the great trip report!
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?


I think the slots are open as much as possible, which starts about 2 hours after you depart. In my experience on Princess cruises, table games are shut down between about 2am to 10am. On my last cruise, I would go to the casino about 6am to 'play' Ultimate X.
I heart Crystal Math.
JoelDeze

Many thanx for the great trip report!
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?


Slots open 24/7 on sea days or 30 min after departing an island.
Table games opened at 11 am and closed at 2 am or 3 am depending on the amount of action they were taking.
Casino is closed while docked.
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson
JoelDeze

You dont really believe this do you? I guess its technically possible, especially if they have a central server. For the most part when people claim this type of BS it's total nonsense. I highly doubt the slot techs run around and change the slot settings. They probably have them all set fairly low to begin with and keep them that way.
That's usually the case since you are betting more on something that's probably holding 15%+.
of course it did, you are getting more chances to get into bonus rounds because you are playing more spins per hour.
Were they higher denominations? If so, they would naturally have more jackpots and appear to be the 'bigger winning machines'.
You hit the quadfecta on slot myths.
Right after reading the part where you were down $700 on various games. I was thinking myself, the happy ending craps winning part will be coming soon. Sure enough, as predicted to myself....


On your first question regarding loose/tight, I have absolutely no way of electronically confirming what I mentioned. Almost all of the info for slots was ascertained from just talking with a majority of the same people that played for hours and figuring out what times the won the most. It's not a super large casino and apparently there are a lot of casino goers that show up around the same spots. I simply asked them how they were doing and if they found things better in the daytime or nighttime. I also asked if they changed their style of play and what machines they liked the most.
You could easily walk around the entire casino in less than 90 seconds. Not a big casino.
On the bonus spins response, your answer is not correct. I could push a button 5 seconds after every spin for 2 hours and maybe get 1 - 2 bonuses show up. Speed racing over just 1 hour produced from 4 to 7 bonuses. Unfortunately, I never figured this out until the last day. I wish I could have tested it further. Maybe I would have had better luck with the machines I went to.
The winning machines in the front were max $1.25 betting machines. They seemed to win something on every spin or every other spin. I actually did well on one but I really hate slots so I don't play them often. I was mainly testing different machines for quirks.
Lastly, on the craps table, I spent 60% of my time in the casino on this one lone micro fiber table. I had a lot of short to medium rolls because the bounce was difficult. I didn't win anything big. I mentioned a $1,600 payout one night but ended up overall at a trifle of that amount. I wouldn't call that a big win at all.
In the end, between everything I did over the full 7 day cruise, I did not come out a winner. I win a lot more at Twin River and so far, Twin River and Foxwoods has produced more money for me combined than any of the other 8 casinos I've visited. The cruise ship wasn't the worst experience I have had but it wasn't even in the low tier of the best. Sure, the service was nice. I had an unlimited drink purchase for the week so I had a lot of fun trying out different drinks while playing, even though I didn't drink as much in the casino. The dealers and staff were exemplary and nice. There were very few grumblers on board.
The experience I loved the most was that when I play in Twin River I am surrounded by 70% Asians towed in from the surrounding area and on the ship, I didn't have that experience because there were so many different people from all different Countries. The conversations were interesting and so I found it more of a social affair.
In the end, I would 'NOT' recommend anyone playing in a casino on a cruise ship. If you want to play, go throw a max bet on the roulette wheel and shoot for black and cross your fingers. It will save you a lot of time and effort and then you can go about enjoying the rest of the cruise elsewhere.
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson

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bbvk05


With the passline increases allowed at anytime, I started with $5 and after the point was set determined increases. I found this very advantageous. 4 or 10 I'd leave the $5. 5 or 9 I'd increase to $10/$20. 6 or 8 I'd increase to $30/$60.


What am I reading here? When the point was set at 5, 6, 8, or 9 you'd put more money on the PASS LINE at 1:1 payout? That's giving the house free money. They have huge edges on those bets.
If you want to pet more at craps, add more to the odds. If you want to bet more than max odds, add money to the pass line ON THE COME OUT ROLL. The edge there is 1.41%.
What you were doing there, if I understand it, is simply giving up your superior chance at a come-out winner.
JoelDeze

What am I reading here? When the point was set at 5, 6, 8, or 9 you'd put more money on the PASS LINE at 1:1 payout? That's giving the house free money. They have huge edges on those bets.
If you want to pet more at craps, add more to the odds. If you want to bet more than max odds, add money to the pass line ON THE COME OUT ROLL. The edge there is 1.41%.
What you were doing there, if I understand it, is simply giving up your superior chance at a come-out winner.


They were capped at 2x on the odds. I normally play 5x or 10x tables at home.

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I generally played 5 on the PL and 10 on the odds (2x capped). I then increased after the 3rd or 5th roll if no 7-out to 10/20 (5 and 9) OR (20/40 to 30/60 if a hot roller). It worked out well.

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The majority of money I lost had nothing to do with PL bets. It was when I didn't turn off or take down place bets when I became greedy.
I like playing at home where I know the people and know which rollers shoot well and which ones don't.
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson

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